User talk:Wendigo Lake
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Hello, Wendigo Lake, and welcome to Wikisource! Thank you for your contributions, such as the one you made to Page:Travels to Discover the Source of the Nile - In the Years 1768, 1769, 1770, 1771, 1772, and 1773 volume 4.djvu/35. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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[edit]{{helpme}} In the text I am currently proofreading (Page:Travels to Discover the Source of the Nile - In the Years 1768, 1769, 1770, 1771, 1772, and 1773 volume 1.djvu/ - Wikisource, the free online library), the typesetter's style was to include the first word (or first syllable) of the next page right-justified on the bottom line. In any text-reading software, I am afraid this will result in double-reading this word (or syllable). I have toyed with the idea of placing it in the footer, but sometimes it occurs before things that I believe are meant to be transcluded (this is a new word for me, I hope I am using it correctly!) In general, in fact, it is the bottoms of the pages that I am working on that are giving me difficulty... I could figure out work-arounds for most, but am afraid they might not follow Wikisource's Style, thereby creating headaches for the next proofreader, or validator. It would be much better if I could learn the proper style now, while I am going through this source page-by-page, to move the work more efficiently toward validation. I have searched several Help pages, but have had no luck finding a solution to my particular problem... any advice would be most welcome! —unsigned comment by Wendigo Lake (talk) 17:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC).
- Hi Wendigo Lake. Glad to see you're getting on well despite the sometimes rather steep learning curve!The layout convention you refer to is what is commonly called a "catchword". It's not actually a part of the layout as such: it is a mere printer's convention to help keep pages in the correct order when they are printed separately. If you absolutely want to you can reproduce these. There's even a template specifically for it: {{continues}}. But it isn't necessary and we usually do not bother, as it is an artefact of the printing process rather than something that in some way reflects authorial intent.If you are going to include it, the right place is in the footer. Nothing in the header and footer boxes will be included when a page is transcluded (yes, you're using that word correctly), so they will only be visible in the page namespace. That property is important for some middling advanced tricks you'll eventually run into a need for, but to start with you can mostly just ignore the header and footer. We tend to fill in running headers (work and chapter title, page number, etc.) and put a {{smallrefs}} template in the footer if there are any footnotes on the page, but this is mostly for aesthetic and other secondary reasons. When transcluded, all the pages will flow continuously like we're used to from modern web pages instead of page by page as in physical books. Our primary output medium is the web page version, and then we adapt that to ebook format (Kindle, Kobo, etc.) as best we can (not always optimally). --Xover (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- PS. I notice you're putting four tilde characters in the edit summary when you proofread a page. The tildes are used on talk pages, like here, to insert your signature: username, link to your talk page, and the time stamp for the message. In the edit summary they have no function and the software doesn't even recognise them. Every edit you make is automatically tagged (in the revision history) with your username and the timestamp, so there's no need to put that in manually. See, for example, Special:Contributions/Wendigo Lake (the log of your contributions) for how that looks.You also do not really need to put in an edit summary when the edit is just Proofreading (or Validating) a page: that is, most of the first edits that create a new Page: wikipage. These get an automatic edit summary like
/* Proofread */which is plenty. It's when you make other edits it's good practice to include an edit summary that helps other users why you made the edit and what it was you changed. --Xover (talk) 17:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)