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defensive weapons to Ukraine."[1] Miller did not have any independent basis to believe that this language contradicted Trump's views and relied on Gordon's recollection of the candidate's views.[2]
According to Denman, she spoke with Gordon and Matt Miller, and they told her that they had to clear the language and that Gordon was "talking to New York."[3] Denman told others that she was asked by the two Trump Campaign staffers to strike "lethal defense weapons" from the proposal but that she refused.[4] Denman recalled Gordon saying that he was on the phone with candidate Trump, but she was skeptical whether that was true."[5] Gordon denied having told Denman that he was on the phone with Trump, although he acknowledged it was possible that he mentioned having previously spoken to the candidate about the subject matter.[6] Gordon's phone records reveal a call to Sessions's office in Washington that afternoon, but do not include calls directly to a number associated with Trump.[7] And according to the President's written answers to the Office's questions, he does not recall being involved in the change in language of the platform amendment.[8]
Gordon stated that he tried to reach Rick Dearborn, a senior foreign policy advisor, and Mashburn, the Campaign policy director. Gordon stated that he connected with both of them (he could not recall if by phone or in person) and apprised them of the language he took issue with in the proposed amendment. Gordon recalled no objection by either Dearborn or Mashburn and that all three Campaign advisors supported the alternative formulation ("appropriate assistance").[9] Dearborn recalled Gordon warning them about the amendment, but not weighing in because Gordon was more familiar with the Campaign's foreign policy stance.[10] Mashburn stated that Gordon reached him, and he told Gordon that Trump had not taken a stance on the issue and that the Campaign should not intervene.[11]
When the amendment came up again in the committee's proceedings, the subcommittee changed the amendment by striking the "lethal defense weapons" language and replacing it with
- ↑ Denman 6/7/17 302, at 3.
- ↑ M. Miller 10/25/17 302 at 3.
- ↑ Denman 12/4/17 302, at 2; Denman 6/7/17 302, at 2.
- ↑ Hoff 5/26/17 302, at 2.
- ↑ Denman 6/7/17 302, at 2-3, 3-4; Denman 12/4/17 302, at 2.
- ↑ Gordon 2/14/19 302, at 7.
- ↑ Call Records of J.D. Gordon Grand Jury . Gordon stated to the Office that his calls with Sessions were unrelated to the platform change. Gordon 2/14/19 302, at 7.
- ↑ Written Responses of Donald J. Trump (Nov. 20, 2018), at 17 (Response to Question IV, Part (f)).
- ↑ Gordon 2/14/19 302, at 6-7; Gordon 9/7/17 302, at 11-12; see Gordon 8/29/17 302, at 11.
- ↑ Dearborn 11/28/17 302, at 7-8.
- ↑ Mashburn 6/25/18 302, at 4.
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